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 Spark Matsunaga (former Senator of Hawaii) Department of Veterans Affairs is located at Tripler Army Medical Center in Honolulu. With The VA Pacific Islands Health Care System (VAPIHCS) Honolulu serving approximately 127,600 veterans in Hawaii AND the Pacific Islands I commend the work they have done to help the Veterans of the Armed Forces. 

My son served in the Armed Forces and he was on the USS Kitty Hawk in the Persian Gulf when the war broke out on March 19, 2003. It was his 23rd Birthday.

When he came home the summer of 2006 he started the process for VA Benefits so he could go back to school. With all the military red tape he finally is able to go to school in this Fall Semester. He had a job but they closed and he lost his medical benefits.

But wait!  He has VA Medical Benefits!  "GOOD THING" because he got so sick yesterday morning that he called MOM. He WAS really sick to call me and say, "Mom, I'm really sick and I'm scared". We immediately picked him up and rushed him to Tripler Army Medical Center Emergency Room.

FOUR HOURS LATER!!: And watching everyone walk in the door with children with coughs and go ahead of my son. My son mumbled something about Active Duty first, Active Duty Dependents second.....and Veterans  ....LAST!  What kind of protocol is that?  The lady at the front desk said that there is no such thing as first come first serve and said the severity of the case goes first.

 HOW DO THEY DETERMINE who goes first WITHOUT seeing a doctor to determine the severity? My son could hardly talk....he was in a fetal position in the back of our car from severe stomach cramping. So bad that his teeth chattered so hard from chills his jaw hurt. So bad I was afraid he would go through a seizure (he has a history of periodic grand mal seizures). So bad I had to talk to register him.

My son's cramping got a little better during those FOUR hours.....but the lady at the front said the "NORMAL" waiting period is up to six hours. For who? Vets? WE LEFT with the intention of just going to our civilian hospital and paying for my son. My son declined.

This is the ONLY facility Veterans can go to for "emergency" care and I was very disappointed in the care for Veterans. My son wasn't the only one.....I watched closely as two other older gentleman who were retirees were going through the same thing.

I have been a military dependent for the majority of my life and never knew of  this protocol. I have heard "war stories" about how the Veterans of the Armed Forces do NOT get that attention they need. I heard of the men coming back from war who don't get the care they need from the mental health issues they receive after going through traumatic situations they encountered in war zones.

I just got off the phone with my son. He's a little better. But what about the rest of the VETERAN'S?  What about ....next time?  Maybe he'll be lucky and be able to make an appointment for a regular office visit in the VA section of the hospital.

Following is informtation that may help a vet or even a honorably discharged war vet get a step ahead of the game to VA Benefits.

VA Pacific Islands Health Care System  (phone: 433-0600)

Health Care Patient Advocates :  The Patient Advocate is located at the Spark M. Matsunaga VA Medical Center and serves as a liaison between patients and staff when a Service issue cannot be resolved. The Patient Advocate is Barbara Morgan and she may be reached by calling (808) 433-0126. Her office is located at: 459 Patterson Road, Ambulatory Care Center, Room 1B08

National Headquarters Info for  Hawaii Office of Veterans Services:

459 Patterson Road
E-Wing, Room 1-A103
Honolulu, HI 96819-1522
(808) 433-0420
(808) 433-0385 fax
Mark.Moses@va.gov

Other Helpful Links:

Homelessness is also very high on the list for aide for Veterans in Hawaii and after reading many stories on this subject I will do many follow up stories as well.  One important factor you Veterans should know about....if you are a Disabled Veteran and have a service related disability ...you are exempt from the VA Loan Funding Fee. Did you know that? First time use of the VA Guaranteed Loan the funding fee is 2.15% and second time use is 3.35 and of course it is lower is putting money down. The Hawaii VA Loan amount is currently capped at $625,500 (including the funding fee)

Yes, Active Duty Personnel are to be commended. My son was Active Duty and served and I am proud of him. And...yes, the Veterans of the Armed Forced are to be commended and NEED to be remembered as well.

My son is a Veteran and I am proud of him still.

 

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Celeste "Sally" Cheeseman is a Realtor-Associate with Century 21 Liberty Homes in Mililani, Hawaii. With a sharp understanding that a listening ear is the key to a client's needs  she serves the island of Oahu (Honolulu County) and all Hawaii Military Relocating to Hawaii, Hawaii Retirees, Hawaii Job Transfers and Hawaii Residents. Website: www.hawaiihomesmarket.com

  

 

                                                       

 

Celeste "Sally" Cheeseman  is a Realtor-Associate® and Certified Residential Specialist (CRS) with Century 21 Liberty Homes in Mililani, Hawaii. With a sharp understanding that a listening ear is the key to a client's needs  she serves the island of Oahu (Honolulu County) and all Hawaii Military Relocations, Hawaii Retirees, Hawaii Job Transfers and Hawaii Residents, Home Buyers and Sellers.

  

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Comments

Hi Sally - Health care is a big issue for ALL of us in the islands - especially on the neighbor islands.  I hope things are changing for the better.  Thanks for all the useful links.
Posted by Georgina M. Hunter R(S) e-Pro Maui Real Estate Sales (Jim Sanders Realty Inc. - Maui) about 4 years ago

Sally- Hey, it is that way here in the regular hospitals! I would only go if it is a matter of life and death. Our doctor makes house calls. More people die in the hospitals from something other than what they came in for. My sons will only go to the private emergency clinics because they are much more sanitary. I have friends whose husbands have died in the hospital. I almost died after giving birth to Tristan. I got a fever and the nurse did not note my file that I had a fever. The next day my temperature was 105 and they freaked! In went the IV, etc, and I was in the hospital for 5 more days with an infection that I got from the hospital! No wonder mothers give birth at home! 

I will say a prayer for your son. Hope he is feeling better. I have had pains so bad in my stomach that I thought I was going to die! It turned out to be gas! People laugh, but it really hurts! It can also be food poisoning. There is much more food poisoning than people realize. 

I grew up in the Navy and had my share of nightmares at the military hospitals growing up. 

I too, am proud of your veteran son!  

Posted by Nestor & Katerina Gasset Realtors® Wellington Florida Homes For Sale (International Properties and Investments LLC) about 4 years ago

Georgina: I just read about the Maui VA situation needs a lot of help and a makeover!  I hope awareness helps....next step...our congressman....hmmm.

 

Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago

Katerina: Gary and I went to Costco and took him a case of Soy Milk, Apple Juice and some other mommy kind of stuff....He got up to come out to the dining room to drink juice and take Tylenol. He has a bad bug. Will never know what that severe stomach stuff that gave him chattering teeth chills was about.

My son was born in Biloxi Mississippi Training Hospital....then again...that is another BIG story lol!

Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago

Good morning Sally,

Sorry to hear your son was treated with such lack of respect. Unfortunately it is more the norm then most folks know. Why our Vets aren't acknowledged for the service they gave our Country is beyond me.

The Veteran's Hospital here in Tampa is the exception to the rule. They appear to give Veteran's due regard. However "Active Service" first is the policy, be it written or unwritten. Thanks for bringing the situation to light. 

Glad to hear your son is feeling better.

Posted by Harold (Hal) Place (A1 Connection Realty, Inc.) about 4 years ago

Sally,

Sounds like common sense is missing in health care also!!! Thanks,   Fran

P.S. Hope your son gets well quickly!!!

Posted by Fran 'The Title Man' Gaspari Title Insurance-PA & NJ (Patriot Land Transfer, Inc.) about 4 years ago

Sally, most of our hospitals here have a triage person who sees you right away, they diagnosis the severity of the case so it has helped, we have so many hospitals here that it is very competitive, even a huge VA hospital. They advertise they will see you in 10 minutes and have made it their unique selling proposition.

Now I will agree that the hospitals for Vet's are a mess, look at Walter Reed, due to the war it is over flowing. We need as a country to have better after care service for out Veterans all the way around. Many need jobs, training for disabilities etc... What a mission this would be. 

(((hugs))) to your son.  

Posted by Missy Caulk-Ann Arbor-Realtor® Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams-Ann Arbor) about 4 years ago
Most medical care facilities would rather leave you on your death bed until they see the insurance policy..it's terrible to have to wait...there needs to be a better way to help people who are sick and then worry about the cost.
Posted by Neal Bloom-Realtor ®CRS-Weston FL Real Estate (Keller Williams Properties, Weston FL) about 4 years ago

Hi Sally - Sorry to hear your son was treated so poorly. I hope he is feeling better. The ER room would have been no better, they take cases on the basis of "emergency". All other cases get to wait hours. Happened to my son a few years ago. Waited for hours to be seen. Then they thought he had a dislocated hip. After having him waiting again for hours in extreme pain, xray showed it was broken. Big screw up.  He needed immediate emergency surgery.

The health care system in this country is in a mess and no one wants to do anything to fix it.

 

Posted by Guilford Connecticut Real Estate Agent, Sandra Cummings (William Raveis Real Estate) about 4 years ago

Sally,
I am appalled!  I've heard these stories before and am always amazed that this  lack of compassion and poor service is "normal"  for our vets.  If anyone deserves the best of the best, it is these men and women who served our country. 

Maybe we need to start a campaign for better Vet Health care here on AR --we're strong in number.  If we all banded together and contacted our representatives, who knows what kind of difference we could make.  

Posted by Cynthia Tilghman, Realtor® Onslow County NC Home Specialist (Kingsbridge Realty, Inc) about 4 years ago
Sally, Here for the last years they Triage the patients....they determine who needs to go first without even seeing them (please don't ask me how).  I hope your son is feeling better soon and I hope they take excellent care which he gave our Country.
Posted by Laura Cerrano and Carole Provenzale Owner, Feng Shui Long Island & New York (Feng Shui Long Island & New York City/Feng Shui Manhattan ) about 4 years ago
Hal: Active Duty members not on duty and on the weekend (I feel) should not be an exeption to the rule. There were MANY sick people in that waiting room. Vets do have the respect and they have a wonderful program here. I am more concerned with the ER at Tripler. There was no excuse to make others wait for people who appeared 'happy' and functioning while my son had a hooded jacket (he kept he hood on for chills). Anyway, over and done...but there really needs to be a different protocol for the weekends... I really didn't know even dependents went ahead..... and my dad retired from the Navy and my son's dad from the AF...
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago

Fran: Maybe I'm ranting because I'm a mom....but voicing extra due to the fact there were other vets in there and treated the same way.

Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago

Missy; Tripler Army Medical Center serves ALL military and vets in Hawaii (all islands) and the Pacific Islands. Can you imagine? On top of that....active duty and dependents go to the ER for colds and other VETS have to wait. What I don't get is.... the front desk plops the check in paperwork in the box. Then a nurse comes out and "decides" which one to take vitals first. I watched here shuffle them around throughout the whole time. They have this huge hospital....and an ER too small to accomodate Active Duty and VETS.

 

Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
Neal: At check in ....the woman asked if we had other health insurance besides VA. Uh, ... my son only had VA. The company he worked for went out of biz....and he lost his medical a month ago. Wasn't VA sufficient? I mean...it is government right?
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
Sandra: Now that is messed up!  I really believe they leave the 'determination for severity' to the vital sign taking person ....wrong!!!!  Tripler Hospital has been in the news more often than not....I was worrying about my son having a seizure. Crap. Maui VA needs a big makeover too. It was just in the news.
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
Cynthia: I agree!  Someone start a VA group!  WooHoo!  I for one am going to speak up.
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
Carole: THAT is exactly my point.....HOW DOES ONE DETERMINE WITHOUT SEEING A DOCTOR????? Look, now I'm all excited again :)
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
Sally, I know we are lucky here in the West Palm Beach area. Not that many year ago we had a state of the art facility built for the veterans. 
Posted by Matthew J Blum - (retired from the business) about 4 years ago

Sally,

I'm sorry to hear that your son is sick, hope he gets better soon. It's sad to hear about the way our veterans are being treated.

Posted by Somerset MA Real Estate ~ Suzanne Sands (Pavao Real Estate) about 4 years ago

Sally, yes veterans don't get the care that they need sometimes, and they deserve better than that.  Did they determin what the problem was with your son???

Posted by George Souto NMLS# 65149 FHA, CHFA, VA Mortgages Connecticut about 4 years ago

Matthew: Their own hospital and ER too?  I really believe they need to have one set apart....because Active Duty will always go ahead.

Suzanne: He's better...it really upset me....I just get excited now....stay tuned. I have more stories!

George: Hey George! Did you have a good weekend?  No....we left....we were going to take him to a civilian hospital but he said no.... He's gotten better over the last couple of days...In fact, I better call him...thanks!

Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
Sally, I am sorry that you had such a horrible experience and I am shocked that there isn't a VA Hospital there! My Dad was cared for several times at the VA Hospital in Spokane Washington and it was a very nice place. I loved what that Hospital did for my Dad. I am a dependent and so I do use military medicine. My husband is a corpsman in the Navy. I know there are huge strides that need to take place. My husband had to spend some time training at a VA hospital and said it was really tough.  I have always received good care by my military doctors. I however, feel that the military has let too many civilians in and in my eyes that is where some of the problem lies. I know there is no way another soldier, sailor, airman or Marine would allow their fellow Vets to be treated this way. We all have to keep telling our stories.
Posted by Jo Soss | Designated Broker West and South Puget Sound (HomeFront Realty) about 4 years ago

Sally... military or not, that is one of the worst things that I have ever heard. How about those dying first... those with a sore throat last....  Seriously, someone's head should role over there. I hope your son goes up the chain of command, complaining and writing letters. Someone needs to stand up and mention this kind of care. Whoops... lack of care and lack of common sense.

jeff belonger
Posted by Jeff Belonger-The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) about 4 years ago
PS... sorry, I forgot to say that I am glad that your son is okay...  just that the system gets to me sometimes... 
Posted by Jeff Belonger-The FHA Expert - FHA Loans - FHA mortgages - USDA loans - VA Loans ( Social Media - Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc) about 4 years ago

Thanks Jeff...leave it to you to watch our backs :)  I agree...but my son is so mellow ...it'd be mom doing it...I have gotten all those links together for a reason though....stay tuned. :)

Thanks Jeff.....he is way better today....getting a lot of rest. We kind of wish we found out what was wrong...that stomach pain was too severe ....  yeah....system gets to me too....

Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
I also happens in the civilian world. I was sitting in a wheel chair in the waiting for several hours.  I let my wife know I was about to lose consciousness from blood lose.  They finally checked me in after my wife complained several times.  I spent the next 24 hours in emergency getting transfusions.
Posted by Randy L. Prothero - Hawaii REALTOR® (808) 384-5645 (Century 21 Liberty Homes ) about 4 years ago
Randy: I got to the ER and I don't wait. I have an appointment and I wait at the most 15 minutes. What's going on?  I was complaining but it didn't do any good...AT ALL,
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
Sally, I have nothing good to say about Trippler. I had surgery there, and we won't even go there on how they treated my grandfather, a WWII Vet when he passed. I'm just glad our friend Bruce was at Queens.
Posted by Lysa Napolitano about 4 years ago
Lysa: That's for sure! Believe me, I had surgery there when I was a teen. My dad was in Washington and had a heck of a time during his chemo and stuff before he died. He stayed at home and definitely didn't want to die there! These vets are too forgotten ...too quick. I don't understand that. Retirees who spent their whole lives are treated worse than Active Duty of a couple years. Sad.
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago

Here in our area of FL our vets have to go to Gainsville for certian things :( Orlando can't even help them. It's not just Hawaii's Vets my friend...  thats the worst part!

Posted by Lysa Napolitano about 4 years ago
Lysa: That's why I mentioned my dad....he was in Tacoma, WA and treated the same way...crappy.
Posted by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman, RA, CRS, HAWAII Real Estate & Relocations (Century 21 Liberty Homes) about 4 years ago
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Posted by Lysa Napolitano about 4 years ago

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